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LordChabelo13

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Posted - May 08 2012 :  12:25:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit LordChabelo13's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WolfWood37

quote:
Originally posted by LordChabelo13

I keep arguing this Doug Williams Black College Football Experience to Sports.



and it will keep getting shot down, every time.



Why? It's an easy 960 GS

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pTartTX

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Posted - May 08 2012 :  12:28:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LordChabelo13

quote:
Originally posted by WolfWood37

quote:
Originally posted by LordChabelo13

I keep arguing this Doug Williams Black College Football Experience to Sports.



and it will keep getting shot down, every time.



Why? It's an easy 960 GS



it's a crappy game in an already over-crowded genre



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Capn Doug x360a

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Posted - May 08 2012 :  12:55:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pTartTX

quote:
Originally posted by LordChabelo13

quote:
Originally posted by WolfWood37

quote:
Originally posted by LordChabelo13

I keep arguing this Doug Williams Black College Football Experience to Sports.



and it will keep getting shot down, every time.



Why? It's an easy 960 GS



it's a crappy game in an already over-crowded genre



Also, played by a very small number of people compared to the rest of the games in the genre. If it wasn't easy with a single brutally hard achievement, few people would have heard of it. And besides, there are easier, more played games that aren't even in the genre (NCAA Football 07, FIFA 06 RTFWC, 2006 FIFA World Cup, etc).

Edit: I just checked and those 3 games I mentioned each have 10 times as many people having played them on TA when compared to BCFx.


Edited by - Capn Doug x360a on May 08 2012 12:57:47 PM
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WolfWood37

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Posted - May 08 2012 :  3:50:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LordChabelo13

quote:
Originally posted by WolfWood37

quote:
Originally posted by LordChabelo13

I keep arguing this Doug Williams Black College Football Experience to Sports.



and it will keep getting shot down, every time.



Why? It's an easy 960 GS



We have had this discussion at least 20 times and I'm tired of explaining it. Its an obscure hard to find game that not many people have played, and an extremely hard 1k in a very crowded genre.

It is not going to be added no matter how many times it is brought up. If you don't like it, fine. We will not be revisiting the topic.




Edited by - WolfWood37 on May 08 2012 3:51:22 PM
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ROGUE 1992

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Posted - May 08 2012 :  3:55:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit ROGUE 1992's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WolfWood37

quote:
Originally posted by LordChabelo13

quote:
Originally posted by WolfWood37

quote:
Originally posted by LordChabelo13

I keep arguing this Doug Williams Black College Football Experience to Sports.



and it will keep getting shot down, every time.



Why? It's an easy 960 GS



We have had this discussion at least 20 times and I'm tired of explaining it. Its an obscure hard to find game that not many people have played, and an extremely hard 1k in a very crowded genre.

It is not going to be added no matter how many times it is brought up. If you don't like it, fine. We will not be revisiting the topic.




How about we put edge games to a community vote as the community should get the casting vote.

http://www.360voice.com/tag/ROGUE 1992"][/url]
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WolfWood37

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Posted - May 08 2012 :  3:57:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ROGUE 1992

quote:
Originally posted by WolfWood37

quote:
Originally posted by LordChabelo13

quote:
Originally posted by WolfWood37

quote:
Originally posted by LordChabelo13

I keep arguing this Doug Williams Black College Football Experience to Sports.



and it will keep getting shot down, every time.



Why? It's an easy 960 GS



We have had this discussion at least 20 times and I'm tired of explaining it. Its an obscure hard to find game that not many people have played, and an extremely hard 1k in a very crowded genre.

It is not going to be added no matter how many times it is brought up. If you don't like it, fine. We will not be revisiting the topic.




How about we put edge games to a community vote as the community should get the casting vote.



How about....no. The badge team will make any and all final decisions regarding badges.




Edited by - WolfWood37 on May 08 2012 3:58:16 PM
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ROGUE 1992

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Posted - May 08 2012 :  4:14:27 PM  Show Profile  Visit ROGUE 1992's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just thought it may make things easyer for you .

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WolfWood37

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Posted - May 08 2012 :  4:25:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ROGUE 1992

Just thought it may make things easyer for you .



Its why there is a badge team in place now instead of just 1 person. I'm just the elected spokesman.



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futiles

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Posted - May 08 2012 :  4:43:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Voting doesn't make it easier, actually, it makes it harder.

There used to not be a badge team, but, about a year ago, maybe less, there was a request made for anyone interested in helping with badges.

Basically, those volunteers became the badge team.

Perhaps, one day, they will expand. Maybe they won't. But, until then, feel free to express your opinion in these threads, just with the understanding that final decisions are made behind the scenes. And, if they have made a decision, repeatedly, and nothing has changed (patches, production and availibility increases, etc), then likely neither will their decision.
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ROGUE 1992

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Posted - May 08 2012 :  7:27:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit ROGUE 1992's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I got an idea for two collection badges snipers there's a few sniper games now and online only there's a few of them too.

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LordChabelo13

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Posted - May 09 2012 :  08:30:23 AM  Show Profile  Visit LordChabelo13's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WolfWood37
We have had this discussion at least 20 times and I'm tired of explaining it.



No we have not. I have brought up BCFX for discussion four times (4). And of those four not once have "we", you and I, had a discussion about it were you had to explain anything to me. So don't exaggerate the issue and get your facts straight.

quote:
Originally posted by LordChabelo13

Is there a reason Black College Football Experience (BCFX) Doug Williams Edition is not on the Sports Badge? It's supposed to be an easy game with the exception of one achievement which has a TA Ratio of 6.09

quote:
Originally posted by Dog of Thunder

Good question. Pencil it in for April to hit the Sports genre.





Here we even have an instance where the person in charge of which games go into genres agrees that the game should go into the genre.

quote:
Originally posted by LordChabelo13

Madden Arcade and Doug Williams Black College Football Experience to sports


quote:
Originally posted by LordChabelo13

Has to be said, Madden Arcade is still missing from sports. Doug Williams Black College Football Experience should also get into sports.



Just four times where I suggest that particular title. If you are confusing me with someone else who has argued for this title more times I'll take that apology now.

quote:
Originally posted by WolfWood37
It is not going to be added no matter how many times it is brought up. If you don't like it, fine. We will not be revisiting the topic.



So you are saying you are forbidding me from bringing up a title in a thread whose sole purpose is to suggest titles be place in a particular genre? Or are you saying it is your life's mission to not let that particular title into a genre? If's the former you think of yourself too highly and if it's the latter then you need to find better things to do with your life.

quote:
Originally posted by WolfWood37
How about....no.



quote:
Originally posted by WolfWood37

Its why there is a badge team in place now instead of just 1 person. I'm just the elected spokesman.



I'll tell you that if you were an official spokesperson of a company you would be fired for speaking to people (e.g. customers) the way you do. If your sole purpose is to interact with people and you lack the social skills to properly express yourself without being rude, belittling, condescending and double check your facts then you have no value as a spokesperson.

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WolfWood37

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Posted - May 09 2012 :  12:36:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are not the first to bring it up. And you probably won't be the last. Please feel free to bring it up 16 more times to make it 20 for you personally if you wish. The answer will be the same.




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DJP519

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Posted - May 10 2012 :  04:59:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I respect the process here, and if it's not going to happen, it's not going to happen, that's fine. But for the record, I'd also like to see BCFX in Sports. LordChabelo is not the only one.

Side note - a while back, a couple people suggested adding PowerGig to Rockstar. And I know at least one person argued against it. Was a decision made to exclude it? Or was the conversation simply dropped? Thanks!
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ROGUE 1992

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Posted - May 10 2012 :  05:49:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit ROGUE 1992's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DJP519

I respect the process here, and if it's not going to happen, it's not going to happen, that's fine. But for the record, I'd also like to see BCFX in Sports. LordChabelo is not the only one.

Side note - a while back, a couple people suggested adding PowerGig to Rockstar. And I knownow at least one person argued against it. Was a decision made to exclude it? Or was the conversation simply dropped? Thanks!



I tried to get great battles into strategy along with lafta and are answer was you need a high number of the community to support it before in gets looked at by the badge team.

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dacoto

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Asshaticus!!

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Posted - May 10 2012 :  06:14:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Second verse, same as the first. A little bit louder and a little bit worse.

"Must not everything, in the end, be swallowed up in death?"

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Mightymango

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Posted - May 10 2012 :  06:21:34 AM  Show Profile  Visit Mightymango's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just so everyone knows I'm still trying to fix the incomplete badge. Someone or thing added a beta of a game that really messed things up. The PES problem is fixed though.

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Capn Doug x360a

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Posted - May 10 2012 :  08:30:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DJP519

I respect the process here, and if it's not going to happen, it's not going to happen, that's fine. But for the record, I'd also like to see BCFX in Sports. LordChabelo is not the only one.

Side note - a while back, a couple people suggested adding PowerGig to Rockstar. And I know at least one person argued against it. Was a decision made to exclude it? Or was the conversation simply dropped? Thanks!



That was me that objected, and I objected for the same reason as I object to BCFx: Obscurity. Quality is subjective (we all like some bad games), but the fact that so few people have played the game compared to its contemporaries is a factor that you can actually measure. Rocksmith has 4 times as many people playing it as PowerGig. Same with Rock Revolution when you check the stack. Those would be the weakest games in the genre. An obscure game in a small genre isn't too much of an issue (Last I checked, Jillian Michaels Fitness Adventure was the least played game, but that genre is tiny), but in a large genre it becomes a factor.

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Posted - May 10 2012 :  09:41:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Capn Doug x360a



(NCAA Football 07, FIFA 06 RTFWC, 2006 FIFA World Cup, etc).





So they are going back in?




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WolfWood37

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Posted - May 10 2012 :  1:11:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by toddycst

quote:
Originally posted by Capn Doug x360a



(NCAA Football 07, FIFA 06 RTFWC, 2006 FIFA World Cup, etc).





So they are going back in?



They are on the ballot.



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Posted - May 10 2012 :  1:44:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I still want to be a jerk and vote that any EA game with online achievements (no matter how new or old) never gets placed into a genre.
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