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Facial La Fleur

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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  6:44:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dog of Thunder

Nope, Mods can only edit invalid postings, there is no question that Mango's attempt at a drop is null and void.



If you as a moderator can see that there was nothing strategic about the edit but simply punctuation, couldn't you make some sort of judgement call on what to do? Losing their bricks seems excessive for something that was absent minded and not intended to corrupt the proceedings.



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Facial La Fleur

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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  6:45:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mightymango

Wtf,.........I had a huge grammer error. God damn it.





No, you had a huge GRAMMAR error.



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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  6:46:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You could have made a second post to clarify if the grammar was that bad.

Personally, I'm afraid to even post in this thread given my frequent habit of editing for further clarification.
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Dog of Thunder

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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  6:48:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Facial La Fleur

quote:
Originally posted by Dog of Thunder

Nope, Mods can only edit invalid postings, there is no question that Mango's attempt at a drop is null and void.



If you as a moderator can see that there was nothing strategic about the edit but simply punctuation, couldn't you make some sort of judgement call on what to do? Losing their bricks seems excessive for something that was absent minded and not intended to corrupt the proceedings.



Laus can perhaps give them their bricks back for future use, but otherwise, and I mean this in the nicest way possible, Grape Ape would cry "FOUL" (and be in the right).

There was an edit, the rules say not to do that, making it null and void.

Now if Team N's drop is null and void as well for being considered a "second drop" then I have a problem over different definitions of "nullified".
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futiles

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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  6:51:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dog of Thunder

quote:
Originally posted by Facial La Fleur

quote:
Originally posted by Dog of Thunder

Nope, Mods can only edit invalid postings, there is no question that Mango's attempt at a drop is null and void.



If you as a moderator can see that there was nothing strategic about the edit but simply punctuation, couldn't you make some sort of judgement call on what to do? Losing their bricks seems excessive for something that was absent minded and not intended to corrupt the proceedings.



We are Team N.

Laus can perhaps give them their bricks back for future use, but otherwise, and I mean this in the nicest way possible, Grape Ape would cry "FOUL" (and be in the right).

There was an edit, the rules say not to do that, making it null and void.

Now if Team M's drop is null and void as well for being considered a "second drop" then I have a problem over different definitions of "nullified".


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Mightymango

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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  6:52:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mightymango's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well that is what I get for posting from my phone and tablet and not a real computer. It is not like those three bricks would have mattered anyway.

Sorry Todd and thanks to everyone else for pointing out how retarded I am

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Dog of Thunder

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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  6:53:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mightymango

Well that is what I get for posting from my phone and tablet and not a real computer. It is not like those three bricks would have mattered anyway.

Sorry Todd and thanks to everyone else for pointing out how retarded I am



Mistakes happen. A desire to have good diction even in a forum posting does help separate you from the unwashed masses of the Internet. :-)
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Facial La Fleur

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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  6:56:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dog of Thunder

Mistakes happen. A desire to have good diction even in a forum posting does help separate you from the unwashed masses of the Internet. :-)



This.

I'm super anal about spelling and grammar as well and probably would've done the same thing. Future note to my team... I am not posting brick drops EVER.



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Dog of Thunder

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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  6:59:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also, if a "null" posting counts as a drop and prevents further ones, a team with one brick can post they are dropping on a "friendly" team and then edit the post to nullify it.

Their buddies are safe for the day, with no one else able to drop on them and no bricks from their "allies". Provided a team can continually hit 1 brick (not too hard given the numbers we have seen so far), this is a great way to grant a safety net as we go down the stretch.

If the rules work as I believe they do, then this tactic that abuses the penalty will not work.
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Roku750

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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  7:05:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just of of curiosity while we're hammering out clarification of the rules, is it just the posts that declare a drop that can't be edited or is it *any* post in this thread?
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Dog of Thunder

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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  7:07:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Roku750

Just of of curiosity while we're hammering out clarification of the rules, is it just the posts that declare a drop that can't be edited or is it *any* post in this thread?



Posts that declare a drop.
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JB330

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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  7:07:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You guys do know you can edit your posts that aren't brick dropping posts, right?
quote:
Originally posted by Dog of Thunder

Also, if a "null" posting counts as a drop and prevents further ones, a team with one brick can post they are dropping on a "friendly" team and then edit the post to nullify it.

Their buddies are safe for the day, with no one else able to drop on them and no bricks from their "allies". Provided a team can continually hit 1 brick (not too hard given the numbers we have seen so far), this is a great way to grant a safety net as we go down the stretch.

If the rules work as I believe they do, then this tactic that abuses the penalty will not work.



They would have to be awful friendly to give up all their bricks to protect another team.


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Roku750

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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  7:11:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dog of Thunder

quote:
Originally posted by Roku750

Just of of curiosity while we're hammering out clarification of the rules, is it just the posts that declare a drop that can't be edited or is it *any* post in this thread?



Posts that declare a drop.


Phew. I think I'll still play it safe though.
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griffey95

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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  7:19:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Roku750

You could have made a second post to clarify if the grammar was that bad.

Personally, I'm afraid to even post in this thread given my frequent habit of editing for further clarification.



Yep, was double and triple checking last night just to make sure I wasn't getting the team name wrong (I did almost leave Hamster Power on there). That would have been quite the embarrassment.



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futiles

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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  7:59:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not to get too formal, but the rules state:

quote:
From the Skyling Rules as it pertains to dropping bricks and after the initial post is made:

At that point, editing the post is not permitted, and will nullify the bonus usage as well as empty the team's storage of gold bricks.



Now, the rules specifically use the word NULLIFY.

This is defined as:

quote:
From the Merriam-Webster dictionary:

1: to make null; especially : to make legally null and void
2: to make of no value or consequence



So, it specifically means that is has no value and no consequence, which means it could not block another team from dropping bricks, as that would be a value to one team (the team that would be "safe" from having another drop done, and a consequence to all others as they would not be able to drop on said team).


That is my take, and probably a bit to drawn out, but just wanted it out there.

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Mightymango

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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  8:11:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mightymango's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I wasn't asking them to still count btw. I screwed up so I wouldn't expect them to.

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Facial La Fleur

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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  10:00:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So does the second drop on the day count then? It's still kinda unclear to me.



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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  10:05:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can I declare a save for next week still?

Adding nothing constructive to a thread near you


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futiles

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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  10:13:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Facial La Fleur

So does the second drop on the day count then? It's still kinda unclear to me.



Look in the actual Skyline 2012 thread. According to Laus, yes, the second drop stands.

quote:
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Posted - Feb 26 2012 :  10:30:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit StingX2's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hotdogmcgee

Can I declare a save for next week still?



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