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ChangeAgent

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Posted - Sep 19 2006 :  4:34:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit ChangeAgent's Homepage  Reply with Quote
We get a ton of email from people asking why they lost their streak badge. I am posting some helpful content here that explains WHY you might lose it and HOW you can keep it!

Why we miss the games you play
We pull all data about if you play or not starting at MIDNIGHT PST.

The only date we get from Microsoft for your gaming is LASTPLAYED. This means if you start playing a game at 6pm and stop at 7pm for dinner... then start playing again at 8pm and stop playing at 1am... the game WILL NOT COUNT because you played it OVER the midnight cutoff. The lastplayed date will not by the NEXT DAY and it won't appear in your blog.

How to prevent losing a streak
Before you play any major retail game, always play a little arcade game first for a few minutes. Pop in Geometry Wars or maybe Frogger... anything! Play that game... then exit to the dashboard... then put in your retail game. By starting and stopping a game during the day (before midnight!) you will ensure that you have AT LEAST ONE GAME that will show up in your blog... and your streak will be preserved.

Also, make sure you always log in to Xbox Live BEFORE starting any game. There have been reports that if you log in while inside the game, or if you have your system set to boot directly to the game without loading the dashboard first, it won't capture your game data until the next time you play the game.

So for extra safety, turn on your xbox to the dashboard, THEN launch your game.

Finally, always try to play more than one game. From experience it seems that there is a better chance of your gamer data being captured at Xbox.com when there is more than a single reason to do so.

By following these rules, you should be able to keep your streak going.

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Ikari Warrior

147,557

Zone: Pro

Total games played: 520

Current Streak: 1

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Starting Gamer

USA
1 Posts

Posted - Oct 14 2006 :  11:54:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ikari Warrior's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If we game past 50 days, say on day 65 I miss a day. Will I lose the 50 day streak badge? I had a 30 day streak badge and lost it on the midnight thing. I think once you earn a badge you should get to keep it, showing what you accomplished in the past.
Thanks
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ChangeAgent

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360voice Staff

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Posted - Oct 15 2006 :  08:28:30 AM  Show Profile  Visit ChangeAgent's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Some badges you keep, but some badges are a notification of your status. The blogs also mention when you achieve a streak... so there is always your blog entry as proof that you did it. The streak badge was never meant to be something you have, but a way of recognizing those who are on a streak.



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Sid De Mouse

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Bermuda
2 Posts

Posted - Oct 16 2006 :  7:43:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit Sid De Mouse's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Does the Blog know if Xbox live is down? I just got my 10 day badge going for 20 but from what i hear is that on the 17th Live is going to be down for updates. Will i still have my streak if the system don't come back up be for midnight?

Edited by - Sid De Mouse on Oct 16 2006 7:43:55 PM
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ChangeAgent

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360voice Staff

USA
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Posted - Oct 16 2006 :  8:04:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit ChangeAgent's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You will keep your streak. We are going to make sure that everyone who plays while the outage happens still gets their streaks.



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a1a1a1

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Posted - Oct 16 2006 :  8:23:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks changeagent, i knew there would be some type of solution.

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Tha Real Cuber

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Netherlands
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Posted - Oct 17 2006 :  11:37:50 AM  Show Profile  Visit Tha Real Cuber's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well it seems fair that you will let us keep our streak, since we (and you) can't help it we can't play online.
I will make sure to play later today so the streak keeps active, too bad I already lost a streak of over 80 days once, just because Real Life prevented me from gamin'!

Happy Gamin'!©

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ChangeAgent

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Posted - Oct 17 2006 :  11:39:19 AM  Show Profile  Visit ChangeAgent's Homepage  Reply with Quote
As we have said... all streaks will come to an end... it is only a matter of time. :)



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a1a1a1

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Posted - Oct 17 2006 :  2:49:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChangeAgent
As we have said... all streaks will come to an end... it is only a matter of time. :)



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why do u say that ChangeAgent, i hope i never lose mine lol. Im gonna game forever!!!

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Catalina DSO

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New Gamer

USA
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Posted - Nov 07 2006 :  11:11:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit Catalina DSO's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well I am sad because I had 100+ days played and messed up. I got on to live and played some bejeweled 2 on Friday Nov 3, 2006 and while in the game I received a chat invite. So I chatted for a short time and then had to get off live because I was going out of town. I forgot to go back to the game and save it, showing that I played on that day. Normally I save all games before accepting invites, not sure why I didn't that day. I lost my streak badge. :(

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Pedle Zelnip

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Average Gamer

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Posted - Nov 12 2006 :  1:24:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Catalina PMS
Well I am sad because I had 100+ days played and messed up.


That sucks. My 60+ day streak is now over for a different reason: I no longer have an Xbox as it's in the shop being repaired. :(

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MAKA91

148,050

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Average Gamer

Canada
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Posted - Nov 20 2006 :  8:56:10 PM  Show Profile  Visit MAKA91's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've played for the last 13 days straight and no Badge :S

I've also gotten an achievement everyday for the past 13 days, tommorow it'll be two weeks, Shouldnt there be a badge for that? Cough Idea Cough

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a1a1a1

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Posted - Nov 20 2006 :  9:24:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MAKA91
I've played for the last 13 days straight and no Badge :S

I've also gotten an achievement everyday for the past 13 days, tommorow it'll be two weeks, Shouldnt there be a badge for that? Cough Idea Cough





The streak badges are on hold right now.

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Tha Real Cuber

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Netherlands
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Posted - Nov 25 2006 :  04:48:02 AM  Show Profile  Visit Tha Real Cuber's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Still no time line from Microsoft?
Since the cards still aren't updated correctly...
Probably nota high priority at microsfot :'(

Happy Gamin'!©

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ChangeAgent

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360voice Staff

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Posted - Nov 25 2006 :  08:31:25 AM  Show Profile  Visit ChangeAgent's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The timeline (if you can call it one) is by Dec... so in the next week... but we shall see.



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dragonflyy

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Posted - Nov 27 2006 :  08:52:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I still don't have my streak badge and i've been playing every day now for like 2 months,
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a1a1a1

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Posted - Nov 27 2006 :  09:02:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dragonflyy
I still don't have my streak badge and i've been playing every day now for like 2 months,



The streak badges are currently down due to feed issues with Microsoft side. So streak badges are on hold.

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KayAitch

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Posted - Jan 10 2007 :  04:21:38 AM  Show Profile  Visit KayAitch's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChangeAgent
Why we miss the games you play
We pull all data about if you play or not starting at MIDNIGHT PST.



Why not at a few more times each day?

quote:
Originally posted by ChangeAgent
The only date we get from Microsoft for your gaming is LASTPLAYED. This means if you start playing a game at 6pm and stop at 7pm for dinner... then start playing again at 8pm and stop playing at 1am... the game WILL NOT COUNT because you played it OVER the midnight cutoff. The lastplayed date will not by the NEXT DAY and it won't appear in your blog.



You also get online status, surely anyone online at midnight is continuing their streak?

quote:
Originally posted by ChangeAgent
How to prevent losing a streak
Before you play any major retail game, always play a little arcade game first for a few minutes. [...snip...] and your streak will be preserved.



I don't think this service really works if users have to change their usage patterns to use it.
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ChangeAgent

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Posted - Jan 10 2007 :  07:21:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit ChangeAgent's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KayAitch

Why not at a few more times each day?



To take the "snapshot" of data for all gamers in our system currently takes 2.5 hours. We could take multiple snapshots (which we might start doing) which would give us more accuracy but it exponentially increases the complexity of how we handle everything else that we do. We may have to start doing it for a little more accuracy, specifically around the midnight cut off. One idea is to do a capture at 10pm and after midnight and filter out all the duplicates that way we can prevent the situation where a user plays a game over midnight.

quote:
Originally posted by KayAitch

You also get online status, surely anyone online at midnight is continuing their streak?



We would probably solve this issue using the method I mention above. Yes the presence feed gives us that info, but it is an entirely different feed and has no date information. We could use it as a sort of "pre-filter" but it isn't enough to know you are on... you also have to be playing a game that we otherwise didn't capture. And since the import takes 2.5 hours... what if you start playing an hour after midnight? Maybe the import never reached your gamertag yet... using the presence feed would probably not work.


quote:
Originally posted by KayAitch

I don't think this service really works if users have to change their usage patterns to use it.



The Streak badge (all the badges) are just one aspect of the service. It isn't 100% accurate because Microsoft heavily restricts what data we have access to. If we had a direct link into their system, these issues wouldn't exist! We are doing the best with what they give us and trying to do some new and fun/innovative things. It works great for a lot of people that already have certain play habits. For some, it doesn't work so well. We are aware of this, but there isn't a ton we can do.

Hope my answers help!



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KayAitch

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Posted - Jan 12 2007 :  09:47:32 AM  Show Profile  Visit KayAitch's Homepage  Reply with Quote
2 1/2 hours to gather the update? I'm in the UK, so midnight PST is 8am here. That basically means that if I want a streak I shouldn't play between 8am and 10:30am.

Unfortunately I like to play before I go to work in the morning, so I can't make use of this service.

You do have information about what country I'm in, so why not stagger your xml feed reading service. Do the US users at midnight PST, the UK users at 8am PST, French users at 9am and so on.

That way each collection would take a lot less time.
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ChangeAgent

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360voice Staff

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Posted - Jan 12 2007 :  09:52:26 AM  Show Profile  Visit ChangeAgent's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KayAitch

Unfortunately I like to play before I go to work in the morning, so I can't make use of this service.


There is a very real possibility that you can't make use of the STREAK... but you can make use of other aspects of the service. As you can see from your blog, it still catches the games you play, it just won't be as accurate.

Doing multiple pulls is something that is much more complicated than it sounds. We are just now getting to the point where we can maybe do that. If we test it, we will do it with UK first... but there are no guarantees... that are many issues that appear once you start doing multiple pulls.

We will hopefully be offering some other functionality to make streak management much easier since so many people like to attempt them. Look for those announced soon.



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